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    Butcher (hace 1 día) #40675498Adding this spoiler because not everyone is interested in what I have to say, so I don't want to take so much screen space View spoilerHide spoiler
    Not trying to offend you, but you are being fooled by their marketing strategy, which is what I am trying to explain.
    You keep thinking that there might be a gap between the "Standard" and the "DX". but in reality there is no such thing as "DX".
    The "DX" is the standard. It is the product that they initially had in mind to do from the start.
    What you are calling the "Standard" is just a substandard. A REAL "DX" would be something with an exclusive poster or acrylic stand/keychain. Something that bundles it to an "extra" that isn't part of the product itself. Calling this a "DX" is just comical. It is the equivalent, though not as ill-intentioned, as selling you a pair of shoes and calling them "DX", while the laceless or sole-less shoe is the "standard".
    Not as extreme as the shoe example, neither as evil, it is still nice that they are offering a cheaper alternative, since not everyone might be interested in the "extras".
    This is actually the same as if phone companies offered you cellphones that came without chargers / headphones. You might already have dozens of those, but new phones still come with it. You might think it is free, but trust me, they aren't losing a penny when they include those things in with the phones.
    So yeah, I hope you understand now that this "DX" is just the standard, and the "standard" is a substandard. The "DX" will cost exactly what the product was planned to cost. And there will be a cheaper alternative called "standard".
    What we should really be worried about, is that if they are offering a substandard edition, it is most likely, because they fear that some of the consumers may be pushed back by the standard cost, thus it would be easier to lure these people into buying a substandard edition by making them think that is the standard.
    It is also possible that they are offering a substandard edition, because as many other people suggested, the item is store exclusive, thus by calling it "DX" it makes it seem more reasonable to have it be store exclusive.
    Anyways, prepare your self for either a hard to order item, or an overly expensive item. But remember, you aren't buying a "DX", you are just paying a lot of money for the standard item.
    I have no idea, thus am ignorant, about their licensing and production costs, nor their fixed and variable costs. And I find it nice of them to providing a cheaper alternative if they consider their item to be expensive. At least it makes it available to those that otherwise would not buy it.
    What I don't like, is that they are labeling the standard as "DX", there is no direct harm to it, and the action by itself can be excused because they don't want to name the substandard as something bad, so they use "standard", therefore the real standard becomes the "DX".
    However, this practice is also a very common way of racking up prices which can be seen quite often with phones.
    They release a standard item and brand it as a "DX", while offering you a crappy edition for cheaper. Later on, when their sales indicate that a substantial amount of consumers are buying into their "DX", they will release a new item. Only this time, the new "DX"(standard) will be more expensive, and the crappy edition/"Standard" will be the same price as the "old DX".

    Since you are already used to purchasing said item at said price, they are making you feel comfortable with the price, it is the same price as last year after all. But you aren't realizing that this time you are being given less for the same price as before. Over time this creates a trend that makes us comfortable but it is a method to take advantage of consumers by making them pay more for less.
    Anyways, I am not saying that Flare nor Square Enix is doing this. I am simply raising awareness. So far they have done nothing more than provide a cheaper alternative to a product that will most likely either be store exclusive, or quite expensive.
    Just recall that the "DX" is the standard, there is nothing extra about it. And the "standard" is just a cheaper option to those that are not interested in the many other pieces that the product comes with, or can't afford it. View spoilerHide spoilerIn case that you are one of the people that can't afford it, don't feel bad about buying a substandard edition, it is a reality that life is hard and things are expensive, there are a thousand of cool things out there and we can't afford it all. I myself have some monstrous bills coming up nd have no way of affording everything that I would like to have. There is no shame in that.
    They most likely named them like that, because naming the cheaper alternative as substandard, would hurt their sales. And naming a standard as "DX" would probably boost their sales. Which is not inherently ill mannered, they are doing this for profit after all.
    Just realize things for what they are, so you don't get tricked by those with ill intentions.
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    Butcher (hace 1 día) #40676423Well that response doesn't look quite friendly, but maybe I just don't get it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Guess you maybe just don't feel like chatting and that's fine.
    Let's be realistic here; you wrote an essay projecting on what you think onto me.

    "but you are being fooled by their marketing strategy"

    I still don't understand how I'm being fooled by "[your assumptions on their] marketing strategy". I'm not stuck between getting the standard and the DX. My mind has been set on the DX version and once it goes up, I'm placing an order regardless of price. My initial point was me being skeptical on why two variants should exist when the differences between the two are only a few extra pieces/parts.

    Key word, Skepticism does not mean being "fooled" actually quite the opposite.

    "What you are calling the "Standard" is just a substandard. "

    You can make up your own "terms" even though they're practically identical..


    "A REAL "DX" would be something with an exclusive poster or acrylic stand/keychain."

    I would disagree on this. What you're implying is that any AmiAmi Bonus variant that comes with the bonus mini wallscroll/poster, keychain, acrylic stand is the ideal "REAL DX". (I would more commonly associate those bonuses as "Store Exclusives" than "DX Version")

    Let me shed some light on what I think is a real DX.

    ITEM #166899 vs ITEM #211409 ,
    ITEM #244014 vs ITEM #198336 ,
    ITEM #314692 vs ITEM #198690

    DX I consider as the "Deluxe" version where it would often come with something like a special/larger base or a large accessory piece essential to the character(where one can definitely see a substantial difference between the two) Ofc, if you want to save a little money then you can opt for the standard. The differences between the 2B's two variants seem small and if creating a standard variant for frugality on some consumers, then so be it.

    "So yeah, I hope you understand now that this "DX" is just the standard, and the "standard" is a substandard. The "DX" will cost exactly what the product was planned to cost. And there will be a cheaper alternative called "standard"."

    Again, in your perspective that's how you can see it and I agree to some extent. The DX should have been the standard version, but how they wanted to market/release it with additional parts, it's going to have to be called the "DX" version and the initial variant will be the "standard" edition.

    " But remember, you aren't buying a "DX", you are just paying a lot of money for the standard item."

    A subjective statement nor does anyone know the price gap between the two variants. Don't worry, if I get my extra parts, I will feel at ease that I got the "DX" version.

    Any who, I am confused on why you took my skepticism too far and misinterpreted as me being fooled. Seriously... ..you wrote an essay on baseless conjectures. I mean cool, if that's your perspective on it that's great, it just doesn't gain any more footing if your objective was to project onto others on your assumptions.


    I agree we should
    "forget about it and wait for this nice figure to be released" because this whole discussion was okay in the beginning then you blew it up with your rant.
    20 horas antes
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    Butcher (18 horas antes) #40697943Shortened to not bother those unrelated to the comment
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    In your first sentence, you are saying that the “standard” should not exists.
    So I pointed out that the price of the “DX” would not change if the “standard” did not exist, and the “standard” is just there to help people who can’t afford the “DX” or don’t want the interchangeable parts.
    To which you mentioned that you had figured as much. So here begins my issue understanding what you mean.
    Are you saying that people who can’t afford the DX shouldn’t buy this figure


    I seriously do not understand how you comprehend what other's say. In fact, you basically put your own words in my mouth. So let me sum things up, I don't care. I honestly don't care anymore. It's already set in stone, that the DX is a thing with this new entry we're arguing on and the 2B page everyone was following from the get go, is now the standard variant.

    because after all you did say that you figured it is there to help those people, yet you said that you don’t want a “standard”

    Yes, I said if the purpose of the first/standard variant is an economical approach for others (Even though we don't know the price difference yet) then sure, I understand.

    yet you said that you don’t want a “standard”


    Not necessarily. What I'm implying is having two variants when the difference between the two are just a few extra pieces is "counterintuitive". But hey, that's how Square Enix wanted to do it and that's how it'll be done. It was just my two cents that I threw out, that drew "a lot" of your attention and time to cherrypick it and write essays about it.

    Or maybe you were talking about prices, and you wanted the “DX” to cost the same as the “standard”.

    Again, you don't need to guess my thoughts to help your argument. It only furthers your own as moot. (Which to assure you, your guess was very off, let alone, you can barely comprehend what I've been saying and instead, put words in my mouth)

    But if we don’t know the price, why are you already complaining about it?

    Complain? Buddy, where have you been? Since when have I been complaining about the price that not you or I know of? I will say, I am anxious on how much it'll be since the price hasn't been announced.

    I don’t see many more ways of interpreting this, you want to pay the price of the “standard” and get the “DX”,
    which is unrealistic and rather bothersome to see someone complaining about a price that doesn’t even exists yet.


    Oh you are so delusional right now. Again, you put words in my mouth implying I want to lowball the "DX" price for the "Standard" (Knowing no one knows the prices for either) it just baffles me how you came to that conclusion.

    You didn't want a standard, now you don't want a DX,

    No.. I was implying the DX version should have just been the only release to begin with since the extra accessories didn't seem to make a "huge" difference.


    I don't even get what you are talking about here anymore.


    It's okay, I figured as much you're not a great people person nor do I understand why you're so dead fixed on this to begin with.

    If I recall, you were the same guy that ranted on MFC about you trying to sell a broken Anne Takamaki Figure on eBay and that the customer asked too many questions, you got a ton of heat, went into denial/freaked out from the responses you didn't like, you even deleted comments, and temporarily shut your account off/went off the grid. Seems you still haven't changed.

    But hey, I digress.




    I wish they only made a single version, that was as cheap as the standard, with the extra pieces of the DX
    Yeah sure, don't we all. However that is just idealism and selfishness. Expecting them to hand it to you for a cheaper price is just bothersome. And like you said, we don't know the price yet, so why are you even crying for something cheaper? Like you said, you are buying the DX regardless, so if you already made your mind, then...?
    Would have been nice to read it as "I wish they only made a single version, that was as cheap as the standard, with the extra pieces of the DX" At least I could have simply shoved the comment aside thinking that you are a choosing beggar.
    Since I don't want to bother you with another "essay rant" I will cut this short, if I were to attempt to write about the rest, you probably would complain that I am ranting when simply trying to make sense of your comments

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    16 horas antes
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    A 2D girl made 3D out of sheer hard work and willpower... that's pretty intense
    hace 1 día
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    Adding this spoiler because not everyone is interested in what I have to say, so I don't want to take so much screen space View spoilerHide spoilerDonkeyBlonkey (hace 2 días) #40625670View spoilerHide spoilerRight, I figured as much that it would provide more options for people who are wanting to save/aren't too crazy about the extra features.
    Not sure if that's somewhat directed at me. All in all to what I'm saying is, they should have never made a DX version and released it as it is. It just felt counterintuitive. That said, throwing in a few extra pieces/accessories couldn't really hurt the standard version. We don't know how big of a price gap the standard version vs the DX version will be, so I suppose that'll determine if having two versions made a real substantial difference in budget for collectors.

    Not trying to offend you, but you are being fooled by their marketing strategy, which is what I am trying to explain.

    You keep thinking that there might be a gap between the "Standard" and the "DX". but in reality there is no such thing as "DX".

    The "DX" is the standard. It is the product that they initially had in mind to do from the start.

    What you are calling the "Standard" is just a substandard. A REAL "DX" would be something with an exclusive poster or acrylic stand/keychain. Something that bundles it to an "extra" that isn't part of the product itself. Calling this a "DX" is just comical. It is the equivalent, though not as ill-intentioned, as selling you a pair of shoes and calling them "DX", while the laceless or sole-less shoe is the "standard".

    Not as extreme as the shoe example, neither as evil, it is still nice that they are offering a cheaper alternative, since not everyone might be interested in the "extras".

    This is actually the same as if phone companies offered you cellphones that came without chargers / headphones. You might already have dozens of those, but new phones still come with it. You might think it is free, but trust me, they aren't losing a penny when they include those things in with the phones.

    So yeah, I hope you understand now that this "DX" is just the standard, and the "standard" is a substandard. The "DX" will cost exactly what the product was planned to cost. And there will be a cheaper alternative called "standard".

    What we should really be worried about, is that if they are offering a substandard edition, it is most likely, because they fear that some of the consumers may be pushed back by the standard cost, thus it would be easier to lure these people into buying a substandard edition by making them think that is the standard.

    It is also possible that they are offering a substandard edition, because as many other people suggested, the item is store exclusive, thus by calling it "DX" it makes it seem more reasonable to have it be store exclusive.

    Anyways, prepare your self for either a hard to order item, or an overly expensive item. But remember, you aren't buying a "DX", you are just paying a lot of money for the standard item.

    I have no idea, thus am ignorant, about their licensing and production costs, nor their fixed and variable costs. And I find it nice of them to providing a cheaper alternative if they consider their item to be expensive. At least it makes it available to those that otherwise would not buy it.

    What I don't like, is that they are labeling the standard as "DX", there is no direct harm to it, and the action by itself can be excused because they don't want to name the substandard as something bad, so they use "standard", therefore the real standard becomes the "DX".

    However, this practice is also a very common way of racking up prices which can be seen quite often with phones.

    They release a standard item and brand it as a "DX", while offering you a crappy edition for cheaper. Later on, when their sales indicate that a substantial amount of consumers are buying into their "DX", they will release a new item. Only this time, the new "DX"(standard) will be more expensive, and the crappy edition/"Standard" will be the same price as the "old DX".

    Since you are already used to purchasing said item at said price, they are making you feel comfortable with the price, it is the same price as last year after all. But you aren't realizing that this time you are being given less for the same price as before. Over time this creates a trend that makes us comfortable but it is a method to take advantage of consumers by making them pay more for less.

    Anyways, I am not saying that Flare nor Square Enix is doing this. I am simply raising awareness. So far they have done nothing more than provide a cheaper alternative to a product that will most likely either be store exclusive, or quite expensive.

    Just recall that the "DX" is the standard, there is nothing extra about it. And the "standard" is just a cheaper option to those that are not interested in the many other pieces that the product comes with, or can't afford it. View spoilerHide spoilerIn case that you are one of the people that can't afford it, don't feel bad about buying a substandard edition, it is a reality that life is hard and things are expensive, there are a thousand of cool things out there and we can't afford it all. I myself have some monstrous bills coming up nd have no way of affording everything that I would like to have. There is no shame in that.

    They most likely named them like that, because naming the cheaper alternative as substandard, would hurt their sales. And naming a standard as "DX" would probably boost their sales. Which is not inherently ill mannered, they are doing this for profit after all.

    Just realize things for what they are, so you don't get tricked by those with ill intentions.
    hace 1 día
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    I did a super sloppy edit of her with a smaller mouth, and I think that it makes a small difference. The eyes are too small and close-together in the original for the cartoonish mouth to work, I think. The smile is cute but the rest of the face needs to be proportioned accordingly.

    It's a shame because this design is otherwise adorable.

    https://orig00.deviantart.net/0b91/f/2018/266/c/a/ericzlink1537506535_by_seadrown-dcnkl6e.jpg
    hace 1 día
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    carlove (hace 2 días) #40642306Howcome her arms are so long? Much longer than they should be.

    ...it only appears so because of the thik (funny) sleeves that fall below the elbow making the upper part of the artm seem elongated. In reality human wrists are in level with the crotch area as it can be seen in this simple artist's breakdown: cdn.tutsplus.co... (you can check it for yourself in the mirror or find some medical grade body anatomy pictures).

    As far as her legs go, her boots have heels so it's basically the same situation but reversed...:)
    hace 1 día
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    Happy birthday!!
    hace 1 día
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